Tuesday, 14 August 2007

Yes, We Have Some Standards...

As Ttony of the Muniment Room points out, it starts here. At least this Catholic Adoption Agency has decided to stick to its principles, and will refuse to place children with homosexual couples. However, under the current UK legislation, this means that the Agency has to stop placing children with anyone... how very, very sad!

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  1. Anonymous10:53 pm

    Ah yes, Catholic Care. That story provoked quite a decent discussion over at A Tangled Web. Applause applause for the steadfast Catholic Care-that-was. Good to see some won't bow or buckle to such insidious evil.

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  2. Except I'd rather they tried to keep up their operations, and force a battle in the courts to close them. The Church shouldn't duck out - it needs to fight! The welfare of children is at stake.

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  3. Anonymous6:15 am

    I thought it meant they wouldn't get central funding.

    I know the net result is most likely the same--cessation of operations--but if true it is maybe a distinction to make.

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  4. No, Mark - because they would be guilty of "discrimination" they could actually be prosecuted under the SORs.

    Otherwise, private adoption agencies would be exempt. They're not.

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  5. It is not simply about schools and adoption agencies, it is about a higher moral principle: the right of Christians, or at least Catholics, to puiblicly state their beliefs and to live according to them.

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  6. Anonymous10:06 am

    I absolutely agree with Fr John Boyle. In any case, it could all turn out to be a red herring if gay couples fail to approach Catholic agencies, though I guess the more militant types might force the issue. But then they could be turned down on the grounds that stroppy people make bad parents. And even if the agencies were eventually forced to close after a legal battle, they would at least have brought the issue out into the open and in the meantime could continue with their excellent work.

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  7. Anonymous10:53 am

    I fear that it's going to take several 'high profile' prosecution cases to force this out into the open. I think the vast majority of the population is on our side, but 'asleep' to this evil, which only gets into the statute books via clandestine means.

    Homosexuals do not like to be put under the limelight to talk about the activities that they percieve as 'normal'. So getting all this stuff into the papers and on TV via prosecution cases may be the only way forward.

    OK it won't be martyrdom via the Tyburn Tree but pretty painful and psychologically draining none-the-less for Catholics who will stand-up for the Church's Moral Teaching.

    What is vitally important is that Catholics stand together, united, one body, in support of our brothers and sisters as well as Catholic Organisations who choose to stand and fight.

    Homosexuals might feel bold and brash hiding under the new SOR laws, but these are less than paper thin, just like the Emperors New Clothes, and will be exposed for what they are when these battles come to the law courts.

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  8. Anonymous5:37 pm

    One could make the arguement that neither the Agency nor the would be adoptive parents are the 'customers' here (SORS is about not denying goods and services to customers on the grounds of their sexuality,sorry, sexual orientation); the children are. But be that as it may, a legal fight would be expensive and, ultimately pointless.

    I agree, good on Catholic Care. But the real point at issue here, as I have been trying to explain on the Total Catholic discussion forum, is that most of the rest of the so called 'Catholic' agencies long ago sold the pass to the high moral ground of Catholic Moral Theology. They quite recklessly put children into single, Gay homes, as they also place children into families where the adults live outside the Sacrament of Marriage. It isn't Catholic teaching that is important to these people, but 'social work values'. And I speak as a social worker!

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  9. Anonymous10:04 pm

    William,

    Surely that's an influence from modern secular society? The Government thinks the sacraments don't exist, so why should social workers, even Catholic ones? ;-p

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  10. Anonymous1:11 pm

    Would the Bishops actually go to law on this issue? Dream on.
    The headmaster of a 'catholic' Primary school has just announced that he will marry his (male) partener, the head of another (non-catholic) primary school.

    The Bishops are wringing their hands in unison and proclaiming that sacking the man, then waiting for the inevitable 'unlawful dismissal' case at Indsustrial Tribunal 'can't be done'. Their Lordships claim they are 'powerless' on this matter.

    As you think, then so you are. Spineless, liberals is what I call the Lordships.

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