tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post4776480222595351020..comments2023-10-31T11:50:09.773+00:00Comments on Mulier Fortis: A Call For Caution...Mulier Fortishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01186202810919174492noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-54312888656320293782010-04-10T20:29:15.500+01:002010-04-10T20:29:15.500+01:00I'm stumped also with regards to who to vote f...I'm stumped also with regards to who to vote for on the pro-life front of things. Hmmm...Fr Joseph OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509188380610230333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-50437888786011598892010-04-09T16:31:16.416+01:002010-04-09T16:31:16.416+01:00DM: Yes, I know about the PM beinging the "a...DM: Yes, I know about the PM beinging the "annointed one" of the given party that has won the most seats (leaving aside coalition govts. and all that) but it seems that you don't have a system in place where Joe and Jane Sixpack get to decide WHO is the annointed one. I.E. there aren't the equivalent of primary elections to determine who the "annointed one" is to be if more than one candidate is vying for the slot. I.E. who died and elected Cameron as the Tory annointed. From across the pond where I sit, it seems he would be better for the economy, but not really much more than the width of a credit card swipe between him and the other party leaders.<br /><br />For instance, in this last US election cycle, Rudy Giuliani, though competent in some areas and tough on crime didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning the Republican nomination, because Rudy has always, "Catholic" in name only, for abortion "rights." The Abortion issue in a lot of places is very much a factor of who might win a primary.<br /><br />McCain, for all his faults, was always reliably prolife, as was GW Bush. [And dynamite picks from Bush for the Supreme Court, BTW, which can effect generation(s).]gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-37199968242087559242010-04-09T14:30:25.837+01:002010-04-09T14:30:25.837+01:00The only alternative to voting for the least bad i...The only alternative to voting for the least bad is not voting- which has always seemed like an abdication of responsibility.Perhaps a hung parliament would be the best possible outcome...or- the idea is appealing- a HANGED parliament!Patriciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906131174326742939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-57305982673960790712010-04-09T11:20:22.010+01:002010-04-09T11:20:22.010+01:00Fat chance round here. Labour MP: has voted on eve...Fat chance round here. Labour MP: has voted on every anti-life issue you can think of. Green candidate: supports easier abortion and promotion of gay rights. Lib Dem: proud member of the Euthanasia Society for six years. Tory: website doesn't say, so only hope, though I dislike the prospect of voting Tory. Am hoping for a few harmless cranks on the ballot papers!Deliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383433319373651830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-85476641958597753042010-04-09T08:52:04.238+01:002010-04-09T08:52:04.238+01:00In terms of considering who to vote for, if I may ...In terms of considering who to vote for, if I may parahprase Dr Johnson, a person <i>'who does not mind the sanctity of human life, will scarcely mind anything else'</i>. I think that's a good guide.<br /><br />GOTO;<br />in the UK the PM is the Leader of the party with the majority of seats in the House of Commons - and party leaders are elected by the members of the parties, in their various different ways. (Of course, with a hung parliament, that's not necessarily true; but that's a different story !)Dominic Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14514722976964423091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-92013320782803735692010-04-09T08:24:10.958+01:002010-04-09T08:24:10.958+01:00We are far more likely t have the opposite problem...We are far more likely t have the opposite problem: none of the candidates (or parties) being pro-life or indeed representing any of the values and views we hold important. <br /><br />It really is a quandary: should one vote for the least bad, even though that's still bad?Ben Trovatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-72307016805958974862010-04-09T02:56:45.727+01:002010-04-09T02:56:45.727+01:00Oh, and meant to ask you:
It seems to me it is an...Oh, and meant to ask you:<br /><br />It seems to me it is an inherent difficulty for pro-life voters in the UK not to be able to directly choose who is to be the head of their party. Is it? In other words, the so-called "elites" may cast their lots in with the "abortion is no big thing" way of thinking. Ergo, no movement on getting restrictions on abortions.<br /><br />In the US, largely the Republican candidates who win their primaries and nominations tend to be prolife, while the opposite is the case with the Demo. party.<br /><br />To me, Cameron's position on abortion is indistinguishable from a US liberal democrats. But there's not JACK you can personally do about it, unless you become one of the party's inner circle.<br /><br />#2 are there enough prolife MP in any of your parties to challenge the status quo? i.e. have as party leader someone who IS prolife?<br /><br />#3 which of your parties has the biggest number of prolife candidates? [granted EACH candidate for office needs to be personally vetted.]gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28018475.post-53474385148385632232010-04-09T02:41:59.748+01:002010-04-09T02:41:59.748+01:00Amen. Where they stand on abortion is NUMBER one ...Amen. Where they stand on abortion is NUMBER one in my book.<br /><br />IMO, you have a little problem in the UK in that you don't have the option as to who heads your parties - and they party leader seems to be selected by an insider group. For instance, your local MP may very well be prolife (for instance I know Fr. John Boyle's MP, Mr. Green, is pro life) but Cameron strikes me as a flake. Though, IMO, he'd be better than Brown. Then what if the reverse is true? The MP candidate is not prolife == but the leader of his party (who will get the gig as PM should that party win) IS prolife. Then what?<br /><br />HEre it's not infrequent that people 'split tickets." i.e. you might vote for the senator or House of Representatives member from one party, and for a candidate for president who doesn't belong to the same party.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.com